What is the difference between Foxtail & Foxylady seedlings? DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE

Lots of people have been sold green ‘foxy lady’ palms in the past, that eventually turn out growing up into standard foxtails. When you germinated the seeds of the foxy lady and the foxtail did you plant them at the same time? My big green one enjoys full sun however and is the fastest growing palm in my landscape and I have hundreds of palms in the ground. These foxy lady palms are thirsty and it’s nearly impossible to overwater them. The foxtails have been grown in some shade, and the foxyladies have been growing in at least 1/2 day Sun.

Leaning Foxy Lady palm

Secondly, drought tolerance is typically referring to in ground established plants. I’ve always heard that Foxy Lady’s like sun and are somewhat drought tolerant… By the looks of it, drying and wilting, what’re the odds of a rebound if I get it in the ground with profuse water? I highly recommend that you just plant this.

• If so did they sprout around the same time frame?
• I had about 7 seeds so I just planted them all, one popped.
• Do you have a FULL shade spot under some trees or overhang?
• F2 would be a foxy lady x foxy lady (Exc)x(WxV) rather than back crossed with either parent.
• Number 1 on my personal list of favorite feather-leaved / crown shafted palms so i completely understand the allure / desire to grow one ( …or a few, lol )..
• This would happen far more quickly for you than it does for those of us in the humid tropics where the plant tissues survive on atmospheric moisture for ages before the final collapse.
• From what I understand, this tree has been in the pot all along and was not recently potted from a field grown specimen.

Palm Guy

I wonder if the very elongated seed has more Veitchia traits and the more rounded F2 seed has the foxtail traits? Typically I find the F1 does have the hybrid vigor, except when they are very variegated. Only the variegated FL produced viable seed so far, but none of the seedlings are variegated.
Can anyone tell me where I can buy a small foxy lady or gear me in the right deduction thank you Myolensis triple and the (now infamous) foxy lady… Last year I added three Beccariophoenix alfredii, which I’m really liking so far due to their hardiness, and some Areca palms. I caught the “Palm tree bug” a few years ago when my wife and I wanted to add some planters to our yard, and I’ve been turned into a palm-tree nerd, as i call myself, ever since. So today is my 24 hour soak, I added some super thrive to the water at 1 tsp per gallon and am hoping that my plant drinks it up!

What is the difference between Foxtail & Foxylady seedlings?

The green form tends to perform better in full all day sun than the variegated which burns more easily especially in hot dry sun. For the past few months, specimens are in the 1gal pot size, with the palm being around a 1’ in height, most are variegated form. Both are superbly grown, just needs to planted to adapt to So Cal conditions and watering. A potted palm, drought tolerant or not, needs watering much more often than one in the ground that’s established. It’s a bad combination for the palm to deal with root trauma and to fight full scorching sun at the same time. I have 2 smaller foxys, and they were sensitive to repotting; it stunted their growth for several months.

• What’s the difference between the variegated and the green ?
• If you’re up to a good challenge, Kopsick Palm – Arboretum in St. Pete has a few specimens, at least one that can / has produced seed.
• Call me anytime to chat about transplanting palms.
• I have 3-7g (one slight variegation)
• The vast majority of the good looking seed are NOT viable.
• Maybe something I might try to track as time goes on.

Maybe a few other palmtalkers that I sold F2 to can pipe in. The F2 I am growing so far is hard to tell if they will have the vigor yet, but so far, so good. The over variegated ones seem to languish and slowly die or just grow very slow, probably due to lack of chlorophyll. Are they the same as an F1 growth rate? I don’t know the different rates of growth for them in Florida.
There is a slight blonde strip but that why i asked foxy gold is the green form Always green or does it have. Appears to be the green form. Never observed even hints of varigation on any of the solid green specimens i have seen in both FL. Now correct me if I am wrong is it true that even the green ones will spit out some variation in its life span ? There is a variegated one on ebay right now ends in 21 hours Yup, and that’s why 100% green go for more $$
They can be solid green without any variegation. Can you tell me if this baby foxy is a full green ? I bought one like that on eBay recently and it will eventually be planted in a shady/partially sunny area of the garden.

Palm Tree Jim

In fact, about all the foxyladies that exhibited extreme variegation did not survive. Apparently when the greenies are much older they can also put out the odd variegated leaf. I ask because I have 3 one leaf seedlings and they all have variegation so I’m just curious if they’ll all keep this as adults
Been in pots in the greenhouse for a couple years, very hard to tell. Mine are Veitchia Joannis that we’re planted about the same time. Wow that looks like a lot of growth for 6 months since planting.

That thing is so root bound that you need to do slow drip like they do or just plant it. Most likely a resold Rancho Soledad plant or a Florida import from Sparkman. But if there is actually “zero” movement, your palm is probably already dead. Even in the slowest sickliest palm, you should notice some movement of the spear – even 1/8 of an inch in a week assures that your palm is still alive.
If so did they sprout around the same time frame? If there are variegated foxladies, they are obvious. What I have noticed is that the width of the foxylady leaves tend to be a little wider and a little more dark hairs on the leaf bases. @here does anyone have Foxy Lady seed they would like to sell? Wanting to put them out but not if they’re not a true hybrid. Hybrids seem to have a higher rate of growth for some reason.

Foxy lady seeding

Call me anytime to chat about transplanting palms. They say the foxy lady is a rocket but the growth rate appears to be the same as seedlings. Yep, I was told it’s the mother plant genes that determine the fruit/seed so you can’t tell an F1 hybrid without growing it!
I moved the pot to a shadier spot in my yard and applied copious water this morning, and went home at lunch and gave it another soaking. From what I understand, this tree has been in the pot all along and was not recently potted from a field grown specimen. A plant like this that makes tons of roots hates being in a pot made for Hawaii or FL.
The collection has a few standard green Foxies, and a Variegated specimen whose crown receives full sun. FULL DISCLOSURE…these are not photos of my palms, nor did I take these photos. What’s the difference between the variegated and the green ? There’s been a couple times where large all green forms have been available, but it hasn’t been too often.